When I was first coming
up, there was this guy
who was--uh--he was
up, there was this guy
who was--uh--he was
the toast of the town.
I mean, really.
I mean, really.
They talked about him
like he was
like he was
Christ or something, it
was that--uh--
was that--uh--
it was to that extent, and,
uh, sorry--
uh, sorry--
I’ve never really talked
about this. The
about this. The
guy--Jonathan--Jonathan Dover
--he passed away almost
fifteen years ago,
--he passed away almost
fifteen years ago,
so--You’re talking about a
whole generation
whole generation
now, who just--who don’t
even know who
even know who
he is, because, uh, well,
he was only ever
he was only ever
really known locally. But
he was a big hit
he was a big hit
around here. And, uh,
when he first, uh,
when he first, uh,
burst onto the scene--we
sort of started
sort of started
at the same time, and, uh
--everyone was
--everyone was
saying, ‘Oh, he’s not going
to be around
to be around
here for very long. He’s
going to wind up
going to wind up
in New York. He’s going
to go to London.
to go to London.
He’s going to be big.
Jonathan’s going to
Jonathan’s going to
be big. He’s going to
take the world by
take the world by
storm. Just you watch.
Just you watch
Just you watch
him do it.’
And, uh...he didn’t.
Now, at the same time, I
was, uh, really
was, uh, really
working very hard,
making my own art,
making my own art,
and uh, I thought, putting
out some good
out some good
stuff. And, uh, I had some
people who
people who
liked me. Who would
come to my shows,
come to my shows,
and, uh, cheer me on.
People who, uh,
People who, uh,
liked what I was doing,
but, uh, you know,
but, uh, you know,
there was only really
room for one star at
room for one star at
the time, and, uh, it was
Jonathan.
Jonathan.
And somehow--I forget
how this happened,
how this happened,
but--we wound up at a
party? At a party, I
party? At a party, I
think? The two of us?
And so we met, and
And so we met, and
we talked, and, uh, we went
home together.
home together.
He and I. And that seemed--
logical. To me.
logical. To me.
That we--I mean, in my
head--this seems
head--this seems
silly now, but--in my head, I
thought we were
thought we were
equals. That we were on the
same level.
same level.
And, uh, you know, probably
we were, but
we were, but
in terms of--how other people
viewed us?
viewed us?
In reality it was, uh--Not
at all. Not even
at all. Not even
close.
But, you know, you can make
yourself believe
yourself believe
all kinds of things when
you’re young.
you’re young.
So Jonathan and I--we
began dating. And
began dating. And
then, uh, he got me pregnant.
We had a
We had a
daughter--Bella. Beautiful.
Best thing, uh,
Best thing, uh,
you know, in my life. Of my life.
And all the
And all the
while, Jonathan is working.
And people are
And people are
fawning over his work, and,
uh, I became--
uh, I became--
Well, I was--that woman who’s
dating Jonathan.
dating Jonathan.
Jonathan’s partner. Oh,
that’s Marta. She
that’s Marta. She
and Jon have a daughter
together.
together.
And when they would talk
about my work,
about my work,
it was…
It was always linked to his.
So--even when
So--even when
I managed to get them to
say something
say something
nice, it was--
Great piece of work by Marta,
and by the
and by the
way, have you seen what
Jonathan is doing
Jonathan is doing
over at the Hemlock Gallery
on the West
on the West
Side?
By the way, why the hell did
anybody think it
anybody think it
was a good idea to name
a gallery after a
a gallery after a
poison?
Over time, Jonathan got
replaced by new
replaced by new
It Boys, and even--and
this really drove
this really drove
him nuts--It Girls.
And he became mean.
Really mean.
Really mean.
Not so much to me or
Bella, but just--
Bella, but just--
mean, you know, in
general.
general.
Bella took off. She went
to Berlin.
to Berlin.
I think--Well, I know she
wanted to be
wanted to be
an artist, and I think she
felt like there
felt like there
was no way she could do
it around here
it around here
with her father lording the
shadow of his
shadow of his
past over her at all times.
Forcing her to
Forcing her to
live up to his own unfulfilled
goals.
goals.
But she and I were,
uh--very close.
uh--very close.
One day, she called me,
and I was in my
and I was in my
studio--it was in the
garage of the house
garage of the house
where we used to live,
and, uh, I didn’t
and, uh, I didn’t
answer, because I was
so--so invested
so--so invested
in the work, in what I
was doing--and I
was doing--and I
thought, Oh, I’ll call
her back.
her back.
I’ll call her back.
One of her friends found
her a few hours
her a few hours
later. She was…
It was sleeping pills. She
had, um…
had, um…
And I don’t blame Jonathan
for that. I
for that. I
blame myself for not
answering the fucking
answering the fucking
phone, but I don’t blame
Jonathan for, uh,
Jonathan for, uh,
uh--driving her away in
the first place.
the first place.
But I didn’t paint anymore
after that.
after that.
Jonathan got sick, and I
needed to, uh,
needed to, uh,
focus on taking care of him.
And then
And then
when he died, I needed
something to
something to
occupy my time, so, uh, I
opened the
opened the
gallery. And I named it--
I named it after
I named it after
my daughter.
People were--I know
some people were
some people were
surprised that I didn’t
name it after
name it after
Jonathan, because they
thought--
thought--
They thought he was the
love of my life,
love of my life,
and oh how tragic, that
I was now the
I was now the
Widow of the Great Man,
you know?
you know?
That was the story
they liked.
they liked.
I don’t blame them.
It’s a good story.
(A beat.)
But it’s not true.
I hated him.
Even before Bella--
I hated that son-
of-a-bitch.
of-a-bitch.
I would have murdered
him back when
him back when
we were younger, but
I wasn’t brave
I wasn’t brave
enough, so I fucked
him instead.
him instead.
Sometimes...sometimes
that’s the closest
that’s the closest
a woman can get
to...to, uh…
to...to, uh…
Well, that probably
doesn’t make any
doesn’t make any
sense, does it?
You know, the first time
I met Fiona, she
I met Fiona, she
--she reminded me of
Bella.
Bella.
And so I liked her.
It was that simple.
It was also, uh, not a
very good reason
very good reason
to...to do the sort of
things for her that
things for her that
I did. Giving her show
after show,
after show,
mentoring her, you
know, all that, and uh--
know, all that, and uh--
Everybody thought it
was because of
was because of
who her mother was,
and, uh, I sort of--
and, uh, I sort of--
I sort of let them think
that, because it
that, because it
was less embarrassing
or less, uh,
or less, uh,
whatever, to let them
think I was just
think I was just
being a star fucker--
a celebrity
a celebrity
sycophant--
then a...then…
then a...then…
Then me, you know,
trying to, uh,
trying to, uh,
develop this, uh,
relationship with
relationship with
someone just because
--just because
--just because
they were, uh, that…
That they--I’m sorry.
(She’s trying not to get upset.)
I’m sorry.
(A beat.)
So Q is wrong. That’s
what I wanted
what I wanted
you to know. She’s
wrong about me
wrong about me
favoring Fiona--or
she’s wrong about
she’s wrong about
why I favored her.
And I can tell her she’s
wrong, but I
wrong, but I
can’t tell her why.
But I understand her
need for--revenge.
need for--revenge.
I think, uh, I think every
artist--whether
artist--whether
they want to admit it
or not--just about
or not--just about
every artist meets
somebody on the
somebody on the
way up that they’d
like to take down.
like to take down.
It’s very difficult to,
uh, be successful
uh, be successful
and not make enemies.
It’s hard on
It’s hard on
the top and it’s hard
on the bottom. It’s
on the bottom. It’s
really, uh--you learn
that, as you get
that, as you get
older--that it’s really not
easy anywhere.
easy anywhere.
God knows why
we do it.
we do it.
And if you’re an artist
and you can’t think
and you can’t think
of anybody that you’d
like to, uh, shrink
like to, uh, shrink
down to size a little
bit, well--
bit, well--
That probably means
a lot of people
a lot of people
hate your fucking guts.
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